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D a v e
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Hello everyone, can everyone tell me if you use a regional or local modifier in your fee calculation. If so how did you obtain the this. [Razz]

[ 02-11-2009, 05:29 AM: Message edited by: D a v e ]

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Nobody use them?

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Dave, as I understand it, the modifier was made obsolete by ICC, and is no longer available. If learn otherwise, please share!

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We still use it. We have an ordinance that says "valuation shall be deternined utilizing the "Building Valuation DAta" as published in the most current edition of the "Building Standards Magazine." We apply regional modifiers for Washington State and then get a fee.
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I test, where does one find the "regional modifiers for Washington State" that you are using? Who updates and publishes it? And when was it last updated?

I ask because the modifier used to be part of the Building Valuation Data (BVD) provided by ICC, but is no longer applicable (or available). If your state and/or local ordinance requires that you use the most current edition of the BVD, then I believe the values should not be modified.

It is my understanding that to modify building values without support from State or local ordinance of the modifier, is illegal and would subject the offending jurisdiction to liability.

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The ordinance does lay that process out with the current Valuation data and also says to use the modifiers. I believe we found a current (2006) Building standard magazine and pulled the new valuations last year when they were different than what we were using. I don't do that our Permit Coordinator does, I just know that they changed and the permit fees increased accordingly. I would ask but the Permit Coordinator is on vacation.

That is a management intrepretation, I don't do management, but it is interesting how other jurisdictions figure their fees.

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The next updated Buildng Valuaton Data is expected to be available later this month (Feb. 2009).

In the currently available BVD, ICC has outlined how to apply a 'Permit Fee Multiplier', and gives and example. Perhaps this is what the permit cooridinator is using. (Permit Fee Multiplier may easily be confused with Regional Modifier.)
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We don't use it next door in North Idaho.
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Terre....same problem here, modifier has been removed from most current Building & Safety Journal BVD. Do you know what publication it was dropped in? [Razz]

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NO, Dave, I don't off the top of my head. But I will look to find the answer and get back to you.

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quote:
"The data is a national average and does not take into account any regional cost differences. To this end, the table containing the regional cost modifiers was last printed in the October 2003 issue and has been discontinued."
(The Building Safety Journal, February 2007, p.53)



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Terre thanks also the BVD link you posted didn't work.Here's my attempt. [Razz]

http://www.iccsafe.org/cs/techservices/pdf/BVD200902.pdf

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Dave, Thanks for posting the link of the current Building Valuation Data.

And thanks for telling me about the link not working. I removed it.

Apparently the link to the 2008 BVD became ineffective when ICC posted the new BVD. Older BVD tables are "Archive" items and available to members.

By the way, is your department using a "Fee Modifier" or any other modifier?

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Terre, no it's caused a big uproar here as things get changed and approved. We are not going to use a modifier, we will adjust our permit fees to reflect current market. Sorry for the slow response, I recieved a rush of work. [Razz]

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"...recieved a rush of work."

Yeah, yeah, don't rub it in, Dave!
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Wish we had a rush of work here!

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